- Review how spousal liability is different in community property states than in non-community property states.
- Understand that rules vary from state to state.
BILL'S ANSWER
Generally speaking, if both spouses sign a debt agreement both are jointly liable to the creditor. However, if only one spouse signed the agreement, then depending on which state the agreement was signed or where the spouses now live, the non-signing spouse may have liability.
Spousal Liability in Community Property States
Let us tackle the difficult states first — the community property states. The community property states are Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington or Wisconsin.
If the spouses now live in a community property state, or lived in one at the time the consumer debt account (such as a credit card account) was opened, the non-signing spouse may have incurred liability without signing a credit contract as co-debtor. If the debt incurred during your marriage was used for the benefit of both members of the marriage, liability may accrue to the non-signing spouse in community property states.
Regarding a non-signing spouse's liability IF the parties are living in a community property state AND the debt was incurred during their marriage for the benefit of both spouses, AND a spouse is sued and a judgment is rendered for a specific amount owed, the judgment can be collected by wage garnishment against any defendant included in the judgment order singularly or simultaneously. The garnishment amount is normally 25% of net income (that is, after withholding) but this varies from state to state. The creditor does not have any duty to "even out" the judgment liability between the spouses. A creditor has the legal right to collect 100% from either spouse, whichever is more convenient for them.
As a practical matter, even in community property states, many creditors do not go to the trouble of suing both spouses, as doing so tends to complicate the legal process involved in obtaining a judgment. However, this does not mean that a particularly aggressive creditor will not pursue all of its available rights to collect a debt.
One important disclaimer: Community property laws are unique to each state -- no two states share the same laws. The discussion above regarding spousal liability is meant to provide general information about community property as a theory. Your state's laws may vary from the general theory. Therefore, it is important to consult with an attorney in your state who can review the details of your situation and give you accurate and precise advice about your rights and liabilities under your state's laws.
Spousal Liability in Non-Community Property States
Generally speaking, if the spouses never resided in a community property state, and only one spouse signed the loan contract (such as a credit card agreement), then the signatory-spouse is liable for the debt. Conversely, the non-signatory spouse does not share in his or her spouse's liabilities in non-community property states.
Bankruptcy
Now let us turn to bankruptcy. Let us assume one spouse filed for protection under chapter 7 or 13 of the federal bankruptcy code. That filing may not have any effect, positive or negative, on the non-filing spouse. In a non-community property state, the filing of one spouse does not give the other spouse protection of the "automatic stay" (blocking creditors from collection) or the bankruptcy discharge.
Similarly, one spouse filing bankruptcy will not have an effect on the other spouse's credit report, if there are no joint debts. If there are joint debts, you can expect the bankruptcy to be noted in some way on the credit record of the non-filing spouse.
If both spouses are jointly liable to a creditor, the bankruptcy of one does not relieve the other of paying the debt. Upon a bankruptcy, the creditor may look to the other spouse for payment, unless the bankruptcy case is under Chapter 13. If the debt is a consumer debt to be paid 100 percent through the Chapter 13 plan, the co-debtor is protected by the co-debtor stay.
There may be good news for spouses who file for bankruptcy in a community property state. When one spouse files bankruptcy in a community property state, the marital community enjoys the protection of the filing spouse's bankruptcy discharge.
Consult with an attorney to discuss the possible ramifications for both spouses. Bankruptcy laws and courts are federal, but community property and family law vary from state to state. It is important to discuss your situation with an attorney familiar with your state's marital property laws.
Bankruptcy and Judgments
Some judgments cannot be discharged in bankruptcy, including child support, repayment orders dealing with cases of fraud, student loans and some taxes. However, a credit card judgment can be discharged in bankruptcy.
Review the Bills.com bankruptcy help page to learn more about this procedure, what it can do for you, and more on which debts can't be discharged in a bankruptcy.
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Bill
Tulsa, OK | November 28, 2011
November 29, 2011
Since Oklahoma is not a community property state, and you have not signed a contract with the credit card company, you should not be liable for your husband's credit card debt.
I recommend that you speak with your divorce lawyer regarding the division of property, and discuss with him or her your husband's credit card debts.
Also, you should start working on creating your own credit score. Use Bills.com to be more informed about credit scores.
Surprise, AZ | November 10, 2011
November 11, 2011
Divorce does not change the relationship the signer has to the credit card issuer (or any other creditor), but it may change which spouse must pay the debt. For example, in community property states, a court may decide that each spouse must pay 50% of an account's credit card debt. In non-community property states, the court may make similar finding if the charges on the credit card were for the benefit of both spouses or their children. It is impossible to make detailed statements about the division of assets and liabilities without a thorough analysis of the couple's finances.
Consult with a family law lawyer in your state because, as I mentioned, as each spouse's responsibility for debts will depend on your state's laws.
Pasadena, CA | November 07, 2011
November 08, 2011
My opinion, however, is not something for you to rely upon. You need to speak with a divorce attorney, to fully understand your rights and to best protect your interests.
Citrus Heights, CA | November 03, 2011
November 03, 2011
Citrus Heights, CA | November 07, 2011
November 07, 2011
Citrus Heights, CA | November 03, 2011
November 04, 2011
Regarding your questions:
- Spouse A (or other family members) have no criminal liability for Spouse B's traffic violations or other crimes, major or minor.
- The community is responsible for spousal pre-marital debt. However, if the couple divorces, student loans become the signatory-spouse's separate property.
- In practice, a creditor will pursue the signatory-spouse first. If there is a default followed by a judgment, then the judgment-creditor can pursue the couple's community property. In practice, this is rare, but it happens.
Consult with a California lawyer who has family law experience to discuss a ante-nuptial agreement to clarify each party's rights and expectations.
Evesham, NJ | November 03, 2011
November 03, 2011
- See the Bills.com resource How Do I Remove Myself As Cosigner on a Loan? for a general discussion of the loan issue. Regarding your liability if a co-signer files bankruptcy, see Bankruptcy Questions & Answers, and in particular, the discussion entitled, "If One Co-Debtor Files Bankruptcy, What is the Other Co-Debtor's Liability?"
Consult with a bankruptcy lawyer in your state to learn more about your liabilities and rights, and if you have options other than to pay the loan or file bankruptcy yourself, should the lenders pursue you.
Cleveland, GA | November 01, 2011
November 01, 2011
Norcross, GA | November 27, 2011
Safford, AZ | October 25, 2011
October 25, 2011
The Hawaii wedding is a red herring — a false issue. California's family law applies here. California is a community property state, which means that the presumption is that assets and obligations the spouses acquired during the marriage are community assets or obligations. Generally speaking, this means each spouse has liability for the debts of the other, but not always.
That is California law, perhaps overly simplified. This means you have liability for the debts your soon-to-be-ex incurred during the time you were married, even if the accounts were created before the marriage. However, in practice, I have found it rare for creditors, especially credit card issuers, to pursue spouses in community property states. The time and expense of proving the spouse has liability seems to be a barrier for most creditors.
You mentioned your soon-to-be-ex-spouse plans to file for bankruptcy. Assuming the debts are discharged in a chapter 7, you may still have liability for some of the community debts. However, in my experience, creditors rarely pursue the spouse of a person who filed for chapter 7. My guess is that the creditor figures, "One filed chapter 7, if I pursue the other he or she will file, too."
I cannot say whether your soon-to-be-ex's creditors are passive or hyper-aggressive. The chances of them pursuing you are slim, but within the realm of possibility.
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